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    Could we just ask the spokesman for the black people?

    By lambert on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 2:51pm

    Wouldn't that be a lot simpler?

    [Hey! Ouch!]

    [x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

    First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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    i thought you didn't know who Chuck D was, lb?

    By chicago dyke on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 3:02pm

    rimshot, laughter.

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    What is it with the “Fairy Tale” issue?

    By bringiton on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 9:06pm

    And the LBJ/MLK huffiness? Is this real, or is this a way of moving openly away from Hillary and towards Obama under cover of her and Bill being racist?

    Bill’s use of fairy tale was clearly about Obama policy claims, not about his candidacy itself; he has gone out of his way to praise Obama’s being in the race. Maybe I have missed some street slang but I do not see why fairy tale is somehow a particular affront.

    The LBJ/MLK statement was awkward but not incorrect in it’s totality; political activism and political governance are not the same, and both are needed to achieve most objectives. (Nancy Pelosi got in trouble for making the same point, and still gets chided by some people for simply stating a fact.)

    Can somebody hip explain what the fussing with the Clintons is actually about?

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    I missed this: "100,000 new troops"?

    By lambert on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 9:19pm

    Huh? What's he planning to use them for?

    [x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

    First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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    100000

    By chicago dyke on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 10:44pm

    quote i found

    Q. So if you become president in January 2009, you’d be inheriting a situation where it seems there would be in excess of 100,000 troops in Iraq or somewhere around that number – between 10 to 12 combat brigades – or some reduced level of violence, but still significant sectarian tensions, what would be the first step you would take as president?

    A. My first step would be to call in the joint chiefs of staff, the military commanders who are on the ground and most familiar with the situation there. I’m assuming that Petraeus might still be our lead in shaping our activities there and assign a new mission, which his that we’re going to begin a phased redeployment. It is going to be responsible. It is going to be taking pace at a … It will be conducted at a pace that will ensure the safety of our troops that will give us time to fill the diplomatic void that I believe the president has left, in both Iraq and in the region. It will provide us the time to engage in the humanitarian activities that are going to be necessary because the humanitarian crisis that is projected for withdrawal has actually already occurred.

    We’ve already gotten huge numbers of internally displaced Iraqis as well as Iraqis in other countries, so my job is to say to them, my strategic goal is to get us out of the business of street patrols and counter insurgency. We are not going to be engaging in combat activities day-to-day in Iraq. How do we do that responsibly and safely for our troops and how do we marry that and how do we couple that with the kinds of strong efforts and humanitarian efforts that are going to be required to stabilize the country.

    that's from his NYT interview.

    ah, here it is:

    “First, we need to increase our investment in national defense. This means adding at least 100,000 troops and making a long-overdue investment in equipment, armament, weapons systems, and strategic defense. The need to support our troops is repeated like a mantra in Washington. Yet little has been said about the commitment of resources needed to make this more than an empty phrase.

    from a piece in foreign affairs.

    i can't really disagree with glen. we most certainly don't need a bigger military. although black folks will be among those who benefit from it, i'd rather see those same folks with jobs in their neighborhoods, rather than enlisting in the military b/c they have no other real options. so that's a strike against him (obama).

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    Black people do want investment in the millitary

    By lostonechampion (not verified) on Tue, 01/15/2008 - 7:24pm

    Bill Clinton drastically reduced the millitary during his 2 terms in office. That's is why we are stretched so thin now. We don't have enough troops.

    I don't support the war. But our country needs to always be prepared to fight on multiple fronts should we get "jumped". I know that we have nukes but nuclear is really not an option. As an analogy, the police will use that taser a lot more than they will use deadly force (guns).

    Anyway, somebody made a point that increasing the army is somehow not in-line with black issues.

    HUH?

    I know a number of black entrepreneurs that do business with the federal government / department of defense that would beg to differ. They tend to have a good number of black employees that would beg to differ also.

    Comments like that make it sound like black people monolithically support hand-out programs.

    It's just not true.

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    Somehow, adding 100,000 troops wasn't my picture of Obama...

    By lambert on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 10:48pm

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